Brain Parade Technological Alienation
Posted by Jose on Friday, 2 of June , 2006 at 6:00 am
Today’s question seems overly simplistic in hindsight but that didn’t stop me from posing it to a lot of smart people.
“Do you think technology is contributing to an increasing sense of alienation in modern society?”
I put this question to science fiction writers Elizabeth Bear, Robert J. Sawyer, Matthew Cheney and Tom Purdom. I also asked Bob Seidensticker a former program manager at Microsoft and sf reviewer and blogger in arms Shaun C Green.
Elizabeth Bear: I think a sense of alienation is an eternal part of the human condition. If anything, communications technology–such as the internet–has made it easier for (at least moderately wealthy first-world) people to find communities than ever before.
Tom Purdom: I’m very skeptical about sweeping sociological statements like “increasing alienation”. Increasing compared to when? Do we really know how people felt a hundred years ago? Or fifty? Some technology encourages isolation– we watch movies at home instead of going to a theater. Other technology, like the internet, hooks us up. Attitudes toward society are, to me, mostly a matter of temperament. Some people would feel alienated wherever and whenever they lived. Other people would feel connected if you marooned them on a desert island.
Matthew Cheney: Depends on the technology, the society, and individuals. People don’t have equal responses to technologies. Some people, for instance, use the internet primarily as a way to escape their drab, wretched lives. Other people use it as a communication tool. Others to connect themselves to a far wider community than they could otherwise. Others for porn. We often think of particular technologies as having a single effect, but they don’t. Users have agency, they can use things in different, diverse ways. I expect some people have always been alienated from their societies, even back when the most advanced technology was a carved piece of stone. Consciousness creates all sorts of opportunities for alienation.
Bob Seidensticker: I think you can argue it both ways. Computer games seem to be an example of an alienating technology. And yet, newer Internet games allowcollaboration with other people.
The Internet can encourage people to become hermits and get throughlife without interacting with people. And yet, when it’s hard to findnearby people who share one’s interests, and the Internet can allow us tofind like-minded people regardless of geography.
The cell phone and email can be a 24×7 obligation to your company.And yet, they can allow cheap and easy communication (I certainly send more personal emails than I would send personal letters).
We saw this same split with the car close to 100 years ago — did it break up the family, allowing kids to drive off to be with their friends, or did it enable people to connect with friends and family who would otherwise be too far away?
Kranzberg’s First Law says: “Technology is neither good nor bad –nor is it neutral.” That is, a technology isn’t inherently good or bad, but it will have an impact, which is why it’s not neutral. I don’t think there’s a technology small or large that doesn’t have a bad side as well as a good side. And it’s a curious fact that we can see examples of both increased and decreased alienation in the same technologies.
Robert J. Sawyer: It’s a loaded question; it presupposes most peoplefeel more alienated now than they did in the past. Certainly that’s not true for people who live out inthe country or in isolated places; communications technology has made them way more tied into other people than they ever possibly could have been in the past. We have better, more reliable, and cheaper communication now than we’ve ever had before, and our individual social networks go way farther than the back-fence or the water cooler.
That’s all to the good. To give a personal example, as a guy who has been selling fiction for over a quarter of a century now: early on, I had almost no contact with my readers, because there was no infrastructure by which we could be in touch; now, I interact with them daily, through my newsgroup, my blog and dozens of other online communities. And I thinknothing at all about calling a friend thousands of kilometers away just to say hi. Alienation? Not that I can see.
Shaun C. Green: That’s a really complex question. I think certain types of technology can contribute towards social alienation and others can detract from it. I mean, take a social networking tool like MySpace. I think most people in their late teens and above laugh at it, but it’s a great thing for young people. Consider that the general trend over the last decade and probably longer has been for communities to close down any place where kids could go - parkland is “developed”, youth centres are shut down, music venues are sold on and so forth. Then couple that with the increasing availability and speed of Internet connections and new forums where people can meet, converse, socialise and so forth. The answer seems pretty obvious.
But then there’s technology that alienates people; I think of the way that private cars go. It’s all about this little island of peace, calm and power, a stronghold against the chaos outside. So everyone sits in these little fortresses and hides from everyone else. And so few people carpool. You can get loads and loads of isolated people sat in little boxes in close proximity to one another, and they can’t converse and wouldn’t if they could. That’s pretty crazy. There are a lot of SF stories about these dystopian futures where no-one communicates with another, where everyone is alienated, but to be honest there are probably a lot of people who would welcome that with open arms. Anything to get away from the hoi-polloi, right! It’s crazy.
At the end of the day I don’t think it’s right to think of “technology” as some sort of huge block that is definitively one thing or another. You can’t do that with “politics”, or “society”, or “science”, or “culture”. These things are myriad, multi-faceted and not so easily contained. I suppose it’s all about how people use technology, and how it’s offered to them by those that design and build that technology.
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2006-06-03 14:35:00
I grew up in the Deep South, in both a time and a region when people who were into comic books, RPGs, and science fiction were marginalized and the dominant religion was football. If I had had the internet then, with its ability to connect with thousands of people worldwide with my same tastes, values, and concerns, I would have felt far less alienated than I did growing up.
Furthermore, I’ve moved around a great deal, lived in Chicago, London, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Charlottesville, Oxford… I keep in regular contact with an enormous group of people from each of these environments. I would have lost touch with 99% of them in a pre-Internet age.
And here we all are, discussing alienation across time zones and oceans….
2006-06-29 13:38:00
I’ve lived most of my life separated from my son, and–like most boys–he was not a good correspondent. Email changed our rate of touchpoint, allowing us to share all the usual tidbits, from needed information to jokes to casual sharing of news stories or images. So a big thumbs up to the interconnectedness of web technology! On the other hand, I find the ubiquitous use of mobile phones, blackberries, etc. a scary trend. It’s awesome that we CAN be connected. But do we NEED to be connected, 24/7? I see a growing trend of zero tolerance for the quiet moment, the unfilled mouth and brain, the unmediated experience, the ability to wait for gratification for more than a nanosecond. Reading is becoming a lost art to the young, and I work on web for a preteen crowd, I see and hear their tolerance for the written word diminish. Sometimes I think the alienation we should fear is not from one another, but from our inner selves and the richness that reflection, original thought, and solitude can bring, when information is not being feed to us by others.
2006-06-30 02:36:00
Interesting points Anonymous. I think you’re on to something about a loss of interest in the solitude and the quiet moment. I used to work in a hostel in the Canadian Rockies. Despite the fact that the number of people visiting the Rockies has doubled and close to tripled since the early 70s the number of people visiting the backcountry has declined dramaticaly. I don’t understand why that is exactly and I’m not exactly complaining since I like the feel of a hundred square kilometers of pristine wilderness all to myself. But sometimes I wonder if we collectively are missing something.
2007-04-01 15:18:02
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